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we're not going to see that in the next four weeks, but this gives obama the space and frankly gives governor romney the space to say, we're no longer in the crisis we're in. what are we going to do so that four years from now when whoever runs for president four years from now faces an economic with a lower unemployment rate. >> both candidates have their opportunity based on these numbers and quite honestly even numbers before that to point toward a vision for what's next. >> which is lacking from the debate the other night. >> correct. what romney does not have an opportunity to do is make a concerted, passionate argument about how bad things are and how much worse this administration has made them. you can have an open argument about how much better they could and who has a better glide path to that future, and hopefully that's what we get in the next four weeks, right? you can't do this is terrible and this is made worse by this administration. >> let's talk about the jobs have been added, health care, transportation, leisure, hospitality and construction as well. 16,000 jobs lo
we're not going to see that in the next four weeks, but this gives obama the space and frankly gives governor romney the space to say, we're no longer in the crisis we're in. what are we going to do so that four years from now when whoever runs for president four years from now faces an economic with a lower unemployment rate. >> both candidates have their opportunity based on these numbers and quite honestly even numbers before that to point toward a vision for what's next. >>...
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>> it's time for obama to panic. we did this a couple of weeks ago when the polls were the other way, and then it was time for romney to panic. it's probably not time for anybody to panic. this race is now what it was weeks ago, months ago, and that's a fairly close race it will on election day. it's decided by two, three percentage points. we've seen the bounces and swings. this one is going in romney's direction. it appears if you look at the battleground states, it still favors obama. nothing has fundamentally changed. if things keep move inning this direction and this just isn't a reaction to one very bad night for obama last week, well, then, we talk about something else. it's not clear that's what happened yet. >> don't tell that to andrew sullivan, because he is having a breakdown in "the daily beast" today. he laments what he calls devastating new positill numberd he calls the president too air grant to take a core campaign responsibility too seriously, too arrogant to give his supporters kwwhat they deserve.
>> it's time for obama to panic. we did this a couple of weeks ago when the polls were the other way, and then it was time for romney to panic. it's probably not time for anybody to panic. this race is now what it was weeks ago, months ago, and that's a fairly close race it will on election day. it's decided by two, three percentage points. we've seen the bounces and swings. this one is going in romney's direction. it appears if you look at the battleground states, it still favors obama....
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that's only, you know, kind of become clear in the last few weeks. >> you've talked about that. obama is actually in the better position to be winning. >> should be winning, counter intuitive when unemployment is stuck over 8%. >> what do you mean? >> we have so few presidential elections in the modern era, once every four years, there's not a lot of data. what you find is like look at 1980 with jimmy carter losing, incumbent president, 1992, george bush losing, after one term. you had basically the economy was going in the wrong -- it was not growing. it has been growing under obama. it's not explosive growth like ronald reagan had in 1984, able to win 49 states, but it's been slowly growing. you have that and you have another thing that political scientists kind of found there seems to be an advantage the less time your party has been in the white house, the more -- so bush sr. in '92 that's 12 years of republican rule. people are itching for change at that point. four years coming in off what obama inherited is a different situation. >> you know, one thing i would say is that
that's only, you know, kind of become clear in the last few weeks. >> you've talked about that. obama is actually in the better position to be winning. >> should be winning, counter intuitive when unemployment is stuck over 8%. >> what do you mean? >> we have so few presidential elections in the modern era, once every four years, there's not a lot of data. what you find is like look at 1980 with jimmy carter losing, incumbent president, 1992, george bush losing, after...
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there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of the ryan budget cuts. >> right. rom uh any down played the ryan road map. keep in mind the first ryan budget plan included privatizing social security, at least to a certain extent. that's something ryan then dropped in his subsequent budgets. it was there and he was one of the advocates of the plan to put it in the market. secondly the medicare issue. those entitlements, we'll ha from biden about thursday. a lot of democrats think he dropped the ball not pushing the issues against mitt romney. joe biden will read ryan's book and go after those entitlements. >> up next, as mitt romney focus
there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of...
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isn't it telling that president obama didn't make much of this 47% gaffe a week ago. >> sir, why didn't the president bring up any of those things? were you watching this wondering that yourself? >> of course. i was watching it and some of the comments that i hear today make me think people were looking for entertainment instead of substance and facts. i was looking for substance and facts. i saw a president who was very calm, cool and collected. he was looking out for the interest of seniors here in the country as it related to medicare and he was somebody concerned, in my opinion, about the middle class about doing what's right in terms of going forward in terms of diversifying our resources. i know people say this morning that maybe romney was attacking and energetic and all of that sort of thing, but what i saw in the president was somebody who knew his facts, kept his cool, presented himself in a presidential way and i thought did a fine job. we have to realize there's two more of these debates to go. and i don't know that the president necessarily wanted to unload everything in de
isn't it telling that president obama didn't make much of this 47% gaffe a week ago. >> sir, why didn't the president bring up any of those things? were you watching this wondering that yourself? >> of course. i was watching it and some of the comments that i hear today make me think people were looking for entertainment instead of substance and facts. i was looking for substance and facts. i saw a president who was very calm, cool and collected. he was looking out for the interest...
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he said obama wants to hire more teachers and i'm not for that. that suddenly he's for -- he's not for cutting taxes on the top earners in this country, on the wealthy, and, of course, his whole proposal is denying that he has a proposal that would cut taxes by $5 trillion. there's a name to that proposal. he printed it out. the analysis that was done was based on a romney proposal that now he says he doesn't know what obama is talking about. it's utterly amazing, hard to debate somebody who has totally different plans than he really has said in the past. >> does this mean the president has fulfilled his promise to get unemployment below 8% and this isn't a one-term proposition? >> you know, you can't deny the numbers. 7.8% is, in fact, lower than 8%, and that's kind of the benchmark that the republicans have laid out. i'm sure they are extremely disappointed that there are better job numbers in the united states of america because they have been trying to sabotage any efforts, every day i see it in the congress, they have been trying to sabotage
he said obama wants to hire more teachers and i'm not for that. that suddenly he's for -- he's not for cutting taxes on the top earners in this country, on the wealthy, and, of course, his whole proposal is denying that he has a proposal that would cut taxes by $5 trillion. there's a name to that proposal. he printed it out. the analysis that was done was based on a romney proposal that now he says he doesn't know what obama is talking about. it's utterly amazing, hard to debate somebody who...
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what is the obama campaign saying today? next, press secretary ben labolt. [ le announcer ] there are only so many foods that make kids happy. and even fewer that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. you paid...wow. hmmm. let's see if walmart can help you find the same look for less. okay. see? walmart has all these leading eyewear brands and styles. rockstar! really? yeah. oh, wow! oh, black frame looks good on you. yeah? you can get a complete pair starting at just -- $38. really?! and did you know that our glasses come with a free 12-month replacement guarantee? i didn't know walmart had all this. the price is impressive, the quality is too! come to walmart and see for yourself. find quality eyewear brands starting at just $38. only at walmart. what are they fitting, aliens? >>> some of the president's most ardent supporters are scratching their heads trying to explain what appeared possible
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couple weeks on libya you will see governor romney try to go after president obama on competence, on foreign policy but also on the broader issue of competence and leadership. >> and that brings you to the fourth point which is president obama ready for prime time? he's been president for four years. >> right. >> and he is well known for being able to give the great speech. >> right. >> is he ready for this combat? >> that's right. i mean, governor romney, the 20th in the course of the primary, this is a different level. president obama has nodd not ha one for some time. i think president obama has to be careful month to not come off as too harsh. hillary, you're likable enough, when the president can come off a little bit cold. so i think he's going to have to be careful on that. >> and finally, as we go, who brings up bill clinton first? will we see he's campaigning in new hampshire today so he's being deployed. >> i have no doubt that president obama will be happy to invoke bill clinton's support here. and i wouldn't be surprised if romney mentioned him either in terms of trying t
couple weeks on libya you will see governor romney try to go after president obama on competence, on foreign policy but also on the broader issue of competence and leadership. >> and that brings you to the fourth point which is president obama ready for prime time? he's been president for four years. >> right. >> and he is well known for being able to give the great speech. >> right. >> is he ready for this combat? >> that's right. i mean, governor romney,...
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i mean, those poll numbers are pretty locked in six weeks out. >> governor ed endell and alicia menendez, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks, rev. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the tea party were going to change washington. now they're hiding from their records. but we won't let them. that's next. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the gang just love pushing that right wing agenda of theirs. but voters, yeah, let's just say they didn't find it as charming. now the gop's running from their record. vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheat
i mean, those poll numbers are pretty locked in six weeks out. >> governor ed endell and alicia menendez, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks, rev. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the tea party were going to change washington. now they're hiding from their records. but we won't let them. that's next. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you...
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mitt romney pulled dead even with president obama in the very latest gallup tracking poll. before the debate, the president was up by five. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. >> the romney campaign is making adjustments trying to keep the momentum going and move the elect rat in the swing states where it counts. nest hour, he'll be giving a major foreign policy speech and then later in the day campaigning in newport news. >> the chief is preparing for a co comeback and joking about the last performance. >> everybody here incredible professionals, such great friends and they just perform flawlessly. night after night. i can't always say the same. >> i want to bring in perry bacon and robert costa. good morning, guys. >> good morning, chris. >> good morning. >> so, what do you think? does this poll give the obama campaign something to worry about? what do you think, perry? >> i think the debate performance gave them something to worry about. you have seen democrats very strongly critical of his debate performance. the poll itself shows the race
mitt romney pulled dead even with president obama in the very latest gallup tracking poll. before the debate, the president was up by five. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. >> the romney campaign is making adjustments trying to keep the momentum going and move the elect rat in the swing states where it counts. nest hour, he'll be giving a major foreign policy speech and then later in the day campaigning in newport news. >> the chief is...
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does barack obama want to be president? he looked like he'd rather have his toenails removed with a dull, rusty blade than on that stage that last night? >> does he wants to support education? he says he won't cut education. that is different from congressman paul ryan's budget, who is the guy that you conservatives champion as the truth teller for your party. the list goes on and on for taxes as well. so the guy you're saying who showed up yesterday, if the scorecard is correct, is as far from a conservative, a re masum you can put on the table. if you were honest, that's not the guy you would vote for, maybe someone in the middle, a moderate republican. but you a staunch conservative would not vote for mitt romney, the one na showed up last night? >> well, one of the things -- your question, of course, answers why i've done what i did the last five years trying to stop him from being the nominee, but he did effective things defending conservative values last night. if you look at one focus groups one of the networks did o
does barack obama want to be president? he looked like he'd rather have his toenails removed with a dull, rusty blade than on that stage that last night? >> does he wants to support education? he says he won't cut education. that is different from congressman paul ryan's budget, who is the guy that you conservatives champion as the truth teller for your party. the list goes on and on for taxes as well. so the guy you're saying who showed up yesterday, if the scorecard is correct, is as...
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, so i bet you the week after the next debate, we will not be having a conversation about how poorly he did but a conversation about how great he did. the bigger issue here, the republicans are going to have a tough chance because they don't really have an opportunity to spend more money on fields. you can't just dump enough money on the ground in the last month to try to turn on a field operation. that's something you have to build over weeks and months coming up to an election and there's no evidence that i have seen anywhere, i was down in tampa last weekend dealing with a lot of the obama troops, and there's no ground i have seen where republicans have really focused on the field operation. >> guys, great of you to come in on friday. have a great weekend. >>>making news, janet napolitano is on her way to arizona after the death of nicholas ivy. that's the border agent who was killed on tuesday. his funeral is set for monday. >>> now federal investigators tell nbc news that based on evidence they found so far, they're looking at whether the shootings may have been a case of friend
, so i bet you the week after the next debate, we will not be having a conversation about how poorly he did but a conversation about how great he did. the bigger issue here, the republicans are going to have a tough chance because they don't really have an opportunity to spend more money on fields. you can't just dump enough money on the ground in the last month to try to turn on a field operation. that's something you have to build over weeks and months coming up to an election and there's no...
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what he needs to do is kind of what obama did in 2008. when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a compelling vision. whether he can do that is another story. >> your colleague e.j. deion wrote journalists are in search of defining moments and game changers. by this standard, romney needs to game changer. obama can live quite happily without one. so do you think that mitt romney needs to have a big moment or if he is perceived to have won will at least give republicans some momentum. is that really the most reasonable thing to hope for? >> well, certainly it will. if the race were sort of fixed in time righ
what he needs to do is kind of what obama did in 2008. when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that...
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exactly four weeks from election day, mitt romney leads president obama fors the first time in some post-debate polls. romney's biggest
exactly four weeks from election day, mitt romney leads president obama fors the first time in some post-debate polls. romney's biggest
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it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of postpolitics.com and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that had president obama up eight, nine, ten points nationally, let's see where it sorts out at the end of the week or beginning of next week. if you are mitt romney, this is -- the pew poll yesterday was huge news because a lot of what happens here at the end and we are 28 days away, is momentum based. for folks who haven't made their mind up yet you want to look like you're the guy with the momentum. coming off the debate and the pew poll you now can make the case that mitt romney is the guy who is kind of the energy and enthusiasm candidate. i think some polls will come out in places like ohio, virginia, north caro
it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of postpolitics.com and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that...
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and he's -- about a month -- two weeks ago the polls were broadly for obama. now it's closing a bit because of the male part. white males tend to be republican voters and they're coming back to romney a little bit after a bit. in ohio they're not. seems as if in ohio the bain capital message has sunk in. virginia, florida, the white vote will go to romney. >> what struck you about that apparent contradiction in the polling? >> i think you saw a little bit of that bounce kind of come down after the post-convention. you're seeing it sort of return to a place where it was very tight. you saw aa shift among independents in florida, which is what made up a lot of that shift. the striking thing about all three polls is how few persuadable voters there are. that's what these debates are usually about but it may wind up be something to turn out the base and fire up some of their people. >> one of the issue, i put this to both of you, one of the problems with mitt romney's campaign, which has been critiqued by those on the left and right, his friends and enemies, is th
and he's -- about a month -- two weeks ago the polls were broadly for obama. now it's closing a bit because of the male part. white males tend to be republican voters and they're coming back to romney a little bit after a bit. in ohio they're not. seems as if in ohio the bain capital message has sunk in. virginia, florida, the white vote will go to romney. >> what struck you about that apparent contradiction in the polling? >> i think you saw a little bit of that bounce kind of come...
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. >> apparently after last week's debate, polls show obama trailing mitt romney by one point. yeah. one point or as is also known the thing that obama failed to make during last week's debate. >> a lot of people are saying the government is cook the books. >> look i got to say if you're cooking the books 7.8% unemployment is a [ bleep ] recipe. like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >> that was jon stewart in comedy central taking on those who questioned last week's drop in unemployment. the narrative of cooking the books. we heard it over and over. well that's going to wrap things up for me. thanks for your time. see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern. joining me sean spicer, ron fournier, the journal editor in teach and jimmy williams and hogan gibbly. "now" with alex wagner is coming your way next. hi, alex. >> hey, thomas. radish stew. i'm kidding. something more than radish stew with 28 days to go team romney is etch a sketching the etch a sketch as the romney fortifies the wall of obfuscation. we will examine his latest recalibration. the obama camp gives it the bi
. >> apparently after last week's debate, polls show obama trailing mitt romney by one point. yeah. one point or as is also known the thing that obama failed to make during last week's debate. >> a lot of people are saying the government is cook the books. >> look i got to say if you're cooking the books 7.8% unemployment is a [ bleep ] recipe. like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >> that was jon stewart in comedy central taking on those who questioned last week's...
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over the previous week we had tremendous media coverage of romney's 47% figure. that is something that was in the news, got tremendous coverage at the time that quinnipiac was in the field and a lot of other polls were in the field. >> both sides will tell you they don't pay attention to the polls, but sure enough when one side is down, they'll be fast to poo-poo them. >>> we have a new nbc/"wall street journal" poll out tonight with fascinating insights ahead of tomorrow night's debates. >>> up next, i'll talk to philadelphia mayor michael nutter about the breaking news on p.a.'s voter i.d. law being blocked. >>> governor romney is a self-proclaimed red sox fan. why did he make an investment in the yankees? that was me... the day i learned i had to start insulin for my type 2 diabetes. me... thinking my only option was the vial and syringe dad used. and me... discovering once-daily levemir® flexpen. flexpen® is prefilled. doesn't need refrigeration for up to 42 days. no drawing from a vial. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. flexpen® is insulin
over the previous week we had tremendous media coverage of romney's 47% figure. that is something that was in the news, got tremendous coverage at the time that quinnipiac was in the field and a lot of other polls were in the field. >> both sides will tell you they don't pay attention to the polls, but sure enough when one side is down, they'll be fast to poo-poo them. >>> we have a new nbc/"wall street journal" poll out tonight with fascinating insights ahead of...
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the bad news is, president obama's number hasn't moved. so the bounce that he got into the 49, 50% range has held where it's governor romney's number that is fluid. are you one of those that believe that 49, 50% is the winning range? so that your next job, you're in the race, then the next job is you have to figure out how to peel votes away. >> you look at this in the context of where we are. there's five-plus weeks. there's a lot that can happen in five weeks. there's three presidential debates. and there's probably two or three hundred million ads to be dumped on the public. things change in presidential campaigns quite actively in september and early october. it's now that you start looking at serious numbers. the carter/reagan race didn't change until the last few weeks. there's a close parallel between this and carter/reagan. >> let me ask you about new hampshire's poll. i'm sure you didn't miss it. 15-point deficit for mitt romney. i'm guessing you'll argue with some parts. >> i'm not going to argue with it at all. do you really bel
the bad news is, president obama's number hasn't moved. so the bounce that he got into the 49, 50% range has held where it's governor romney's number that is fluid. are you one of those that believe that 49, 50% is the winning range? so that your next job, you're in the race, then the next job is you have to figure out how to peel votes away. >> you look at this in the context of where we are. there's five-plus weeks. there's a lot that can happen in five weeks. there's three presidential...